Q. Difference between these two desktops?
They are both Dell XPS 8500. Which one should I get? There is a 50 $ price difference.
First One-
3rd Gen Intel® Core� i5-3350P processor
Features a 6MB cache and 3.1GHz processor speed with Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz.
Intel® Core� i5 processor
Features smart 4-way processing performance with a speed boost.
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
Automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance.
8GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 32GB.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Create custom DVDs and CDs.
1TB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times.
AMD Radeon HD 7570 graphics
Feature 1GB GDDR5 dedicated video memory for lush images with intricate detail. HDMI output for connection to an HDTV.
4 USB 3.0 and 6 USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
Built-in Dell Wireless 1703 high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n)
Connect to the Internet without wires.
Bluetooth 4.0 interface
Easily link with other Bluetooth-enabled devices, such as a mobile phone or MP3 player.
Built-in Ethernet LAN
With RJ-45 connector for quick and easy wired Web connection.
Microsoft Windows 8 operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.
Software package included
With CyberLink Media Suite Essentials and more. Includes 1-month trial of Microsoft Office 365.
There is also Internal high-definition 7.1 Performance Audio with Waves MaxxAudio
IT is 749.99 $.
Here is the other one.
3rd Gen Intel® Core� i5-3350P processor
Features a 6MB cache and 3.1GHz processor speed with Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz.
Intel® Core� i5 processor
Features smart 4-way processing performance with a speed boost.
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
Automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance.
8GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 32GB.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Lets you create custom DVDs and CDs.
1TB Serial ATA III hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times. The 16MB cache provides enhanced performance.
AMD Radeon HD 7570 graphics
Feature 1GB DDR5 dedicated video memory for lush images with intricate detail. HDMI output for connection to an HDTV.
19-in-1 media reader
Supports Secure Digital, Secure Digital High Capacity, miniSD, microSD, MultiMediaCard, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard, MultiMediaCard Plus, MultiMediaCard micro, RD MultiMediaCard Plus and Compact Flash I/II formats.
Also supports SmartMedia, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick PRO, Memory Stick PRO Duo, Memory Stick Micro, xD-Picture Card and Microdrive formats.
4 USB 3.0 and 6 USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
Built-in Dell Wireless 1703 LAN (802.11b/g/n)
Connect to the Internet without wires.
Bluetooth 4.0 + LE interface
Easily link with other Bluetooth-enabled devices, such as a mobile phone or MP3 player.
Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN
For quick and easy wired Web connection.
Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.
Software package included
With CyberLink Media Suite Essentials.
THERE is also
Integrated 7.1-channel with Waves MaxxAudio
THIS one is 679.99$
Which one should I get? I am really confused. Can u also tell me the difference between the two Ethernet types, GDDR5 vs DDR5 and the sound systems and also are the hard drive speeds make any difference with SATA and SATA III. At last and tell me which one is bang for the buck. Thank you in advance. Please describe of why you know.
They are both Dell XPS 8500. Which one should I get? There is a 50 $ price difference.
First One-
3rd Gen Intel® Core� i5-3350P processor
Features a 6MB cache and 3.1GHz processor speed with Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz.
Intel® Core� i5 processor
Features smart 4-way processing performance with a speed boost.
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
Automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance.
8GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 32GB.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Create custom DVDs and CDs.
1TB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times.
AMD Radeon HD 7570 graphics
Feature 1GB GDDR5 dedicated video memory for lush images with intricate detail. HDMI output for connection to an HDTV.
4 USB 3.0 and 6 USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
Built-in Dell Wireless 1703 high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g/n)
Connect to the Internet without wires.
Bluetooth 4.0 interface
Easily link with other Bluetooth-enabled devices, such as a mobile phone or MP3 player.
Built-in Ethernet LAN
With RJ-45 connector for quick and easy wired Web connection.
Microsoft Windows 8 operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.
Software package included
With CyberLink Media Suite Essentials and more. Includes 1-month trial of Microsoft Office 365.
There is also Internal high-definition 7.1 Performance Audio with Waves MaxxAudio
IT is 749.99 $.
Here is the other one.
3rd Gen Intel® Core� i5-3350P processor
Features a 6MB cache and 3.1GHz processor speed with Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz.
Intel® Core� i5 processor
Features smart 4-way processing performance with a speed boost.
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
Automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance.
8GB DDR3 SDRAM
For multitasking power, expandable to 32GB.
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive
Lets you create custom DVDs and CDs.
1TB Serial ATA III hard drive (7200 rpm)
Offers spacious storage and fast read/write times. The 16MB cache provides enhanced performance.
AMD Radeon HD 7570 graphics
Feature 1GB DDR5 dedicated video memory for lush images with intricate detail. HDMI output for connection to an HDTV.
19-in-1 media reader
Supports Secure Digital, Secure Digital High Capacity, miniSD, microSD, MultiMediaCard, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard, MultiMediaCard Plus, MultiMediaCard micro, RD MultiMediaCard Plus and Compact Flash I/II formats.
Also supports SmartMedia, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick PRO, Memory Stick PRO Duo, Memory Stick Micro, xD-Picture Card and Microdrive formats.
4 USB 3.0 and 6 USB 2.0 ports
For fast digital video, audio and data transfer.
Built-in Dell Wireless 1703 LAN (802.11b/g/n)
Connect to the Internet without wires.
Bluetooth 4.0 + LE interface
Easily link with other Bluetooth-enabled devices, such as a mobile phone or MP3 player.
Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN
For quick and easy wired Web connection.
Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit operating system preinstalled
Provides a stable platform for word processing, Web navigation, gaming, media storage and more.
Software package included
With CyberLink Media Suite Essentials.
THERE is also
Integrated 7.1-channel with Waves MaxxAudio
THIS one is 679.99$
Which one should I get? I am really confused. Can u also tell me the difference between the two Ethernet types, GDDR5 vs DDR5 and the sound systems and also are the hard drive speeds make any difference with SATA and SATA III. At last and tell me which one is bang for the buck. Thank you in advance. Please describe of why you know.
A. The $679.99 desktop seems to be a better buy since it has a memory card reader. The addition of a memory card reader allows you to read memory cards such as those from digital cameras and a few other devices to be used.
The Ethernet ports are the same since the desktops are the same model which, I presume, uses the same motherboard. The different types of Ethernet LAN are the theoretical speeds that the Ethernet is able to handle, most if not all new computers in 2013 come with 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN. The more speeds do not matter since everything is restricted by internet speeds by your internet provider (Verizon, Comcast,etc...)or by networking equipment in your home. If you connect to your internet with a cable to your router or modem, the Dell Ethernet LAN is used. If you use WiFi, then the Dell wireless LAN is used.
There is no difference between GDDR5 and DDR5 since they are labelled under the amd radeon 7570 card which is a dedicated card with its own memory. DDR5 is GDDR5 when it is under a graphics card. A dedicated card is for better performance and graphics for gaming or videos.
Hard Drives in pre-built computers are hard to find out, but again there should not be a difference since they only have one hard drive but the xps 8500 has its hard drive connected to a SATA III port.
The sound systems does not make any difference as many integrated sound systems are sufficient enough. You may have to buy separate speakers for either of the computers which adds to your computer costs since new computers may not come with speakers.
The $679.99 model is better since it costs less and has the same specs and a memory card reader. Keep in mind there are other things that may increase the price of your desktop such as taxes and additional items that are not included such as speakers and monitors. If you are buying from a store, haggle with the manager for a better price, be sure to be kind to them. Best regards to you
The Ethernet ports are the same since the desktops are the same model which, I presume, uses the same motherboard. The different types of Ethernet LAN are the theoretical speeds that the Ethernet is able to handle, most if not all new computers in 2013 come with 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet LAN. The more speeds do not matter since everything is restricted by internet speeds by your internet provider (Verizon, Comcast,etc...)or by networking equipment in your home. If you connect to your internet with a cable to your router or modem, the Dell Ethernet LAN is used. If you use WiFi, then the Dell wireless LAN is used.
There is no difference between GDDR5 and DDR5 since they are labelled under the amd radeon 7570 card which is a dedicated card with its own memory. DDR5 is GDDR5 when it is under a graphics card. A dedicated card is for better performance and graphics for gaming or videos.
Hard Drives in pre-built computers are hard to find out, but again there should not be a difference since they only have one hard drive but the xps 8500 has its hard drive connected to a SATA III port.
The sound systems does not make any difference as many integrated sound systems are sufficient enough. You may have to buy separate speakers for either of the computers which adds to your computer costs since new computers may not come with speakers.
The $679.99 model is better since it costs less and has the same specs and a memory card reader. Keep in mind there are other things that may increase the price of your desktop such as taxes and additional items that are not included such as speakers and monitors. If you are buying from a store, haggle with the manager for a better price, be sure to be kind to them. Best regards to you
I am not sure I understand this, do you?
Q. Received this email from a friend today:
A cosmic trigger event is occurring on the 17th of October 2006. This is the beginning, one of many trigger events to come between now and 2013. An ultraviolet (UV) pulse beam radiating from higher dimensions in universe-2 will cross paths with the Earth on this day. Earth will remain approximately within this UV beam for 17 hours of your time.This beam resonates with the heart chakra, it is radiant flourescent in nature, blue/magenta in colour. Although it resonates in this frequency band, it is above the colour frequency spectrum of your universe-1 which you, Earth articulate in. However due to the nature of your soul and soul groups operating from Universe-2 frequency bands it will have an effect.
The effect is every thought and emotion will be amplified intensely one million-fold. Yes, we will repeat, all will be amplified one millions time and more.
Every thought, every emotion, every intent, every will, no matter if it is good, bad, ill, positive, negative, will be amplified one million times in strength.
What does this mean ?
Since all matter manifest is due to your thoughts, i.e. what you focus on, this beam will accelerate these thoughts and solidify them at an accelerated rate making them manifest a million times faster than they normally would.
For those that do not comprehend. Your thoughts, what you focus on create your reality. This UV beam thus can be a dangerous tool. For if you are focused on thoughts which are negative to your liking they will manifest into your reality almost instantly. Then again this UV beam can be a gift if you choose it to be. Mission-1017 requires approximately one million people to focus on positive, benign, good willed thoughts for themselves and the Earth and Humanity on this day.
Your thoughts can be of any nature of your choosing, but remember whatever you focus on will be made manifest in a relatively faster than anticipated time frame. To some the occurrences may almost be bordering on the miracle. All we ask is positive thoughts of love, prosperity, healing, wealth, kindness, gratitude be focused on. This UV beam comes into full affect for 17 hrs on the 17th of October 2006. No matter what time zone you are in the hours are approximately 10:17 am on the 17th of October to 1:17 am on the 18th October. The peak time will be 17:10 (5:10 pm) on the 17th October. You do not need to be in a meditative state through out this time, though would be beneficial. The main key time no matter what time zone you are in will be the peak time of 17:10 (5:10 pm). Perhaps at this time if you can find a peaceful spot or location to focus. The optimum is out in the vicinity of grounded nature, likened to that of a large tree or next to the ocean waves.
Focus on whatever it is you desire. What is required for the benefit of all Earth and Humanity is positive thoughts of loving nature.
We call this UV beam trigger event, .. gateway. Please forward this message to as many people as you know who will use this cosmic trigger event to focus positive, good willed thoughts. We require approximately 1-million people across globe to actively participate in this event. Please use whatever communication mediums you have at your disposal. Reach out to as many people as possible. We require 1-million plus people at the least to trigger a shift for humanity from separation and fragmentation to one of unification and oneness. This is your opportunity to take back what is rightfully yours i.e. Peace and Prosperity for all Earth and Mankind. This is a gift, a life line from your universe so to speak, an answer to your prayers. What you do with it and whether or not you choose to participate is your choice.
A cosmic trigger event is occurring on the 17th of October 2006. This is the beginning, one of many trigger events to come between now and 2013. An ultraviolet (UV) pulse beam radiating from higher dimensions in universe-2 will cross paths with the Earth on this day. Earth will remain approximately within this UV beam for 17 hours of your time.This beam resonates with the heart chakra, it is radiant flourescent in nature, blue/magenta in colour. Although it resonates in this frequency band, it is above the colour frequency spectrum of your universe-1 which you, Earth articulate in. However due to the nature of your soul and soul groups operating from Universe-2 frequency bands it will have an effect.
The effect is every thought and emotion will be amplified intensely one million-fold. Yes, we will repeat, all will be amplified one millions time and more.
Every thought, every emotion, every intent, every will, no matter if it is good, bad, ill, positive, negative, will be amplified one million times in strength.
What does this mean ?
Since all matter manifest is due to your thoughts, i.e. what you focus on, this beam will accelerate these thoughts and solidify them at an accelerated rate making them manifest a million times faster than they normally would.
For those that do not comprehend. Your thoughts, what you focus on create your reality. This UV beam thus can be a dangerous tool. For if you are focused on thoughts which are negative to your liking they will manifest into your reality almost instantly. Then again this UV beam can be a gift if you choose it to be. Mission-1017 requires approximately one million people to focus on positive, benign, good willed thoughts for themselves and the Earth and Humanity on this day.
Your thoughts can be of any nature of your choosing, but remember whatever you focus on will be made manifest in a relatively faster than anticipated time frame. To some the occurrences may almost be bordering on the miracle. All we ask is positive thoughts of love, prosperity, healing, wealth, kindness, gratitude be focused on. This UV beam comes into full affect for 17 hrs on the 17th of October 2006. No matter what time zone you are in the hours are approximately 10:17 am on the 17th of October to 1:17 am on the 18th October. The peak time will be 17:10 (5:10 pm) on the 17th October. You do not need to be in a meditative state through out this time, though would be beneficial. The main key time no matter what time zone you are in will be the peak time of 17:10 (5:10 pm). Perhaps at this time if you can find a peaceful spot or location to focus. The optimum is out in the vicinity of grounded nature, likened to that of a large tree or next to the ocean waves.
Focus on whatever it is you desire. What is required for the benefit of all Earth and Humanity is positive thoughts of loving nature.
We call this UV beam trigger event, .. gateway. Please forward this message to as many people as you know who will use this cosmic trigger event to focus positive, good willed thoughts. We require approximately 1-million people across globe to actively participate in this event. Please use whatever communication mediums you have at your disposal. Reach out to as many people as possible. We require 1-million plus people at the least to trigger a shift for humanity from separation and fragmentation to one of unification and oneness. This is your opportunity to take back what is rightfully yours i.e. Peace and Prosperity for all Earth and Mankind. This is a gift, a life line from your universe so to speak, an answer to your prayers. What you do with it and whether or not you choose to participate is your choice.
A. The 10/17 otherwise 818 gateway will be resonating a beam approximately one
and half times the size of earth.
i..e As Earth spinning on its axis passes through this beam, it will be
immersed in it for approx 36 hours in total. This makes each point on the
globe to be directly influenced by this beam for an avg 17hrs. Some areas
will actually have more than 17hrs.
The peak of 5:10 pm applies for all countries and timezones due to the above
average. This timing was given as an approximation to assist those who wish
to focus for a short time span. Ideally the longer one can focus their
attention during this time the greater the results.
For every human immersed in thoughts/focused on and in unconsitional love
and peace, there are 6000 others approx focused in fear, trepidation, anger,
hate, war, lust, power, greed, poverty, lack etc. This was the ratio the
Blue gave me when questioned why one million are required. Essentially it is
to balance the equation. yep 1 in every 6000.
The way i understood it this 1 in 6000 ratio is thoughts focused on
unconditional love and peace resonate/attract 6000 times more powerfully
than any other thoughts. i.e. require 6000 times less energy or other words
are 6000 times more efficient. Perhaps why only very few attain mastership
and why it is far easier and effortless to be in these thoughts as opposed
to other thoughts or frames of mind...
Many have emailed asking how long for results to come into affect from the
10/17 gateway? This will depend on the number of people participating above
and the thoughts of global consciousness on that day. However by Jan/Feb
2007 we should begin to see the results either way, for better or worse if i
can use those words.
Expect by 17th Oct for some big DISTRACTION generating fear and frenzy. If
not, then this will be a positive sign.
Many are really hassling for technical data on what exactly this 10/17 - 818
gateway/beam is. The best i could understand it from blue voice is this.
Our sector of the milky way is currently immersed in what many term the
photon belt or menasic radiation. With in this radiation there are tiny
spectral lines of emmissions very much like that to what we term
Lyman/Balmer Hydrogen emmission/absorption lines. (see eg picture)
The above is our observable light wavelength (colour spectrum) and the black
lines are what is called emmission/absorption lines for hydrogen. ie. the
points where hydrogen is resonate within our colour spectrum.
Although this does not represent the photon belt, it does give you an idea
of what this 818 gateway is. which is imagine one of these tiny black lines
which Earth is about to pass through. Next year there will be a 727 gateway
but more on that next year. (the first line on the left is the 818 gateway
in the UV region, the 2nd line is representative of the 727 gateway in 2007.
It wn't be until 2010/2011 before we move out of the UV coded region.
According to Blue we entered the photon radiation belt approx mid 90's and
now we are about to encounter the first emmission line which is very ultra
dense with UV photon radiation. The Blue reckon that the above Colour
spectrum with the hydrogen spectral lines is very reflective of what our
photon radiation belt is like. If you noticed there are 7 lines all taking
us up tp 2012-2013 with the last emission line in the "red" region. (Blue
call this last region infrared, but doesn't look it to me).
According to Blue as we approach this red/infrared region in 2012 and
beyond, every day natural occurences of what one calls "orbs" will become
common place where as now only seen by very few and usually with digital
cameras.
I hope the above gives those who have been garnering for more technical
info. The above is the best i could do to translate from Blue with much
effort.
Many had questionable concerns regarding this 818 gateway being of UV
nature. Your Earth was not created with an ozone layer.
The Ozone layer is a by product of dark times, ignorance, fear and lust for
power.
It is a veil upon the eyes of your souls. It veils and keeps the codes of
DNA transmutation from you.
Eat of the tree of life but not of the tree of knowledge as the eli-jehovan
war lords wished upon you.
Now that you are maturing, like an embryo awakening in the womb/egg, the
ozone layer is dissipating. The EGG must hatch as the bird tribe must now
leave, fly-off or else consume itself and die stuck within the EGG. Mother
Earth is hatching, metaphorically. As it does the veils are been removed and
the UV codes are reaching your souls and you are seeing the son-light for
what it really is.
UV light will be the filter, separate the chaff from the wheat. Only
frequencies of love and peace will survive the UV radiation, all else will
burn away like a cancer.
Where was the light before it existed? where did it come from? Light can not
be stored and can not be frozen in time and space. It occupies no volume and
has no mass. It is the same with thought, beyond space and time, in the void
full of creative potential.
Give Love and Peace a Chance on the 17th of Oct 2006.
http://s88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/entdoc/?start=#imgAnch1
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/entdoc/virtual_neutron_star.jpg
and half times the size of earth.
i..e As Earth spinning on its axis passes through this beam, it will be
immersed in it for approx 36 hours in total. This makes each point on the
globe to be directly influenced by this beam for an avg 17hrs. Some areas
will actually have more than 17hrs.
The peak of 5:10 pm applies for all countries and timezones due to the above
average. This timing was given as an approximation to assist those who wish
to focus for a short time span. Ideally the longer one can focus their
attention during this time the greater the results.
For every human immersed in thoughts/focused on and in unconsitional love
and peace, there are 6000 others approx focused in fear, trepidation, anger,
hate, war, lust, power, greed, poverty, lack etc. This was the ratio the
Blue gave me when questioned why one million are required. Essentially it is
to balance the equation. yep 1 in every 6000.
The way i understood it this 1 in 6000 ratio is thoughts focused on
unconditional love and peace resonate/attract 6000 times more powerfully
than any other thoughts. i.e. require 6000 times less energy or other words
are 6000 times more efficient. Perhaps why only very few attain mastership
and why it is far easier and effortless to be in these thoughts as opposed
to other thoughts or frames of mind...
Many have emailed asking how long for results to come into affect from the
10/17 gateway? This will depend on the number of people participating above
and the thoughts of global consciousness on that day. However by Jan/Feb
2007 we should begin to see the results either way, for better or worse if i
can use those words.
Expect by 17th Oct for some big DISTRACTION generating fear and frenzy. If
not, then this will be a positive sign.
Many are really hassling for technical data on what exactly this 10/17 - 818
gateway/beam is. The best i could understand it from blue voice is this.
Our sector of the milky way is currently immersed in what many term the
photon belt or menasic radiation. With in this radiation there are tiny
spectral lines of emmissions very much like that to what we term
Lyman/Balmer Hydrogen emmission/absorption lines. (see eg picture)
The above is our observable light wavelength (colour spectrum) and the black
lines are what is called emmission/absorption lines for hydrogen. ie. the
points where hydrogen is resonate within our colour spectrum.
Although this does not represent the photon belt, it does give you an idea
of what this 818 gateway is. which is imagine one of these tiny black lines
which Earth is about to pass through. Next year there will be a 727 gateway
but more on that next year. (the first line on the left is the 818 gateway
in the UV region, the 2nd line is representative of the 727 gateway in 2007.
It wn't be until 2010/2011 before we move out of the UV coded region.
According to Blue we entered the photon radiation belt approx mid 90's and
now we are about to encounter the first emmission line which is very ultra
dense with UV photon radiation. The Blue reckon that the above Colour
spectrum with the hydrogen spectral lines is very reflective of what our
photon radiation belt is like. If you noticed there are 7 lines all taking
us up tp 2012-2013 with the last emission line in the "red" region. (Blue
call this last region infrared, but doesn't look it to me).
According to Blue as we approach this red/infrared region in 2012 and
beyond, every day natural occurences of what one calls "orbs" will become
common place where as now only seen by very few and usually with digital
cameras.
I hope the above gives those who have been garnering for more technical
info. The above is the best i could do to translate from Blue with much
effort.
Many had questionable concerns regarding this 818 gateway being of UV
nature. Your Earth was not created with an ozone layer.
The Ozone layer is a by product of dark times, ignorance, fear and lust for
power.
It is a veil upon the eyes of your souls. It veils and keeps the codes of
DNA transmutation from you.
Eat of the tree of life but not of the tree of knowledge as the eli-jehovan
war lords wished upon you.
Now that you are maturing, like an embryo awakening in the womb/egg, the
ozone layer is dissipating. The EGG must hatch as the bird tribe must now
leave, fly-off or else consume itself and die stuck within the EGG. Mother
Earth is hatching, metaphorically. As it does the veils are been removed and
the UV codes are reaching your souls and you are seeing the son-light for
what it really is.
UV light will be the filter, separate the chaff from the wheat. Only
frequencies of love and peace will survive the UV radiation, all else will
burn away like a cancer.
Where was the light before it existed? where did it come from? Light can not
be stored and can not be frozen in time and space. It occupies no volume and
has no mass. It is the same with thought, beyond space and time, in the void
full of creative potential.
Give Love and Peace a Chance on the 17th of Oct 2006.
http://s88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/entdoc/?start=#imgAnch1
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k174/entdoc/virtual_neutron_star.jpg
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